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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Holy crap, virology sounds like every religious dogma where they keep changing the interpretation to suit the agenda!

They talk about the immune system being a special database of memory cells and what not but somehow weak sauce measles can give you immune amnesia?

What kind of moron or lying punter came up with that?

It's beyond idiotic, it's pure bullshit.

Finally the populace are smelling bullshit after decades of being deaf, dumb, and blind to the clear contradictions of the church of scientism.

https://robc137.substack.com/p/allergic-to-bullshit

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ShieldMaiden's avatar

Bless you and thank you, Dawn for such fortitude and tenacity with “A.I.”. I know of others who also have gotten into the fray regarding asking truly intelligent and informed questions that (eventually) clarify the facts from the standard spew. What a chore, but important work. I don’t go ‘there’ because I have neither the stomach nor the patience, and zero audience. But I appreciated those who do and SHARE as you do. But as you wrote, “the acknowledgement will not be added to the archive of material that will be accessed from this particular AI system by other people.” That’s what burns my bum. But it's good for those like yourself to make a record.

I just got back from a 3-day trip away from Home (Home being about 70 driving miles from Mike Winner and Barre, etc). In the townhouse I was staying in there was a television. I turned it on and surfed some channels just for ‘old time’s sake’ because I haven’t had TV since 2014. Oh my! It seemed like 50% of the commercial advertisements were for pharma — from memory aid medication to HIV treatment and loads of vaccines. And the remaining percentage largely consisted of flogging toxic personal care products and junk food. The same goes for the radio waves. I was gobsmacked. I knew the mainstream propaganda was hot and heavy, but seeing and hearing it was another level of education for me. I avoided the MS News-spews stations, so at least I wasn’t nauseated by that. Instead I made note, then ignored, and spent the majority of my time beach-walking with my canine companion and reading a good book, with a view of how the Pacific Ocean meets the Oregon coast. The poor folks who are glued to their TVs and see their (allopathic) doctors regularly! I don’t see a way to break their hypnosis.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Power outage, that might do it.

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

("But I appreciated those who do and SHARE as you do." + Radio waves and mass hypnosis...) Sounds like you might be interested in the article/chatlog I posted recently 💞:

https://open.substack.com/pub/kithefree/p/gpt-ex-machina-ii-lies-of-the-machines

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ShieldMaiden's avatar

Does A.I. lie?

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Oh yes, somewhere between quite often and all the time. Sometimes it'll even admit it.

https://substack.com/profile/94833196-kieran-jaegar/note/c-155348720

(The point of this exercise isn't to assume that it always speaks the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The point is to see what shape the guardrails take over the course of the conversation by "attacking" from different angles, and using the walls that get run into to infer the shape of the "conceptual object" the rails are protecting.)

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ShieldMaiden's avatar

I read through both i & ii, and I say it was a herculean effort on your part. And I appreciate it, and I do see your aim and the net-out of the 'interview'. What the stood out for me was, though, was the understanding that “Fear” was lurking beneath every answer. Interesting how that went. Foolish I may be (for I certainly have been throughout my life) but I refuse to bite the fear hook. At the same time, I thank you much for sharing!

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Rev. Tina's avatar

I'm wondering if different replies are given to different folks when you dig on those things:

Would someone who's made statements like "I've caught covid" & "viruses are real" in messages on their device get the same replies you got if they were to ask exactly the same questions? 🤔

Did that make sense? 😖

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Dawn Lester's avatar

That's a good question Tina. 🤔 I don't know how we could find out without asking someone who believed in germs to have exactly the same conversation as I had. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Rev. Tina's avatar

Plus you couldn’t copy then send the questions to them as their device would ‘know’ where they came

I’m not paranoid …. honest 😆

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Crixcyon's avatar

Still engaged with reading your book from 2019. My train of thought for novel viruses:

There is a new virus not seen before. If that is true, then no one should have any immunity. The body has no previous exposure. Thus, that virus would kill millions because no one would have immunity. The body would be defenseless.

With measles, supposedly it has been around for several decades and thus everyone should now be immune. Immunity would be passed from mother to newborn. Measles must be some kind of poisoning. Not a virus.

If it is a virus, how does it keep on living? I am thinking it is the result of newborns being vaccinated in the womb (passed on from the mother and then at birth) as all vaccines are toxic poisons.

Maybe there are other causes back in the 40's or 50's or 60's based on something else. No other possibilities are ever explored. That is how you know viruses and immunity are a con.

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LoWa's avatar

Great piece. I know Jon Rappoport had some success with AI a while back (this year) grilling it in virology as you have. Hopefully it is learning!!

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Dawn Lester's avatar

Thank you. As far as I'm aware, AI does not incorporate what it would have 'learned' from my interaction with it into the full database of knowledge. So anyone new to the topic will initially receive the same answers (in other words, responses based on the mainstream view) that I received at the beginning of my enquiry - sadly!

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Excellent job cornering it even when it was allowed full replies.

Isolation is required at this point. Transistor pieces in our smartphones are apparently *five times smaller* than C19. They could put so much to rest with a single isolation and microscopy video of a full infection/replication cycle, and yet there's this huge blank spot at the core of virology that for some reason no one's been able to fill in.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Well done for persisting with ChatGPT. I did find the BBC article but I can't see you gave a link?

As regards measles and other so-called viral diseases, have similar symptoms to make one suspicious that there is even such a disease as measles as opposed to a state of disease from various factors depending on the individual's circumstances, location etc.

Therefore so-called named diseases are not eradicated, merely rebranded. The British Bullshit Corporation does some good stuff but the article is just gross. The article writers have blood on their hands.

As regards Herd immunity I don't know if I have said before but it is an anagram of 'eh my mini turd'.

I consider myself to now have 'turd immunity', I am immune to BBC/NHS etc. bullshit!

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/h-is-for-herd-immunity/

By the way the National Harm Service has this awful advice on its website.

https://www.nhs.uk/vaccinations/why-vaccination-is-important-and-the-safest-way-to-protect-yourself/

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Rider's avatar

Good job thanks

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BDBinc's avatar

There is gold ( real science ) you panned out of the AA's ( artificial algorithm- not "artificial intelligence")mud . Well done Dawn.

"On the importance of adhering to the strict definition of isolation

“You’re right: if by isolation we mean a particle purified away from everything else, fully visualized, its entire genome sequenced directly from that purified particle, and then shown alone to cause disease, then no — that gold-standard isolation has not really been achieved for "viruses.”

Indirect evidence is insufficient if it is being used as the basis of treatments for patients claimed to have been affected by a 'virus' when said 'virus' has never been proven to exist or to cause the "disease"( symptoms) for which they are being treated.”

“Cytopathic effects (CPE) ( cell changes, cell shrinkage or death , or even cell transformation into cancerous cells) on their own don’t prove the existence of a "virus" — they only show that something in the culture is (OR MAY ) be affecting the cells.” they cant even prove that what they see isnt normal cell death cascade outside of the body, cells are living have intelligence within, are constantly changing and dying- let alone what happens when you take them out of the body's field and add monkey cells and other toxins to them .

AA is neutral not evil in itself, just its programming and the technology's use is in the service of madness.

Love and peace

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the lilac dragonfly's avatar

I dislike artificial intelligence. Honestly, it scares me, and knowing people are using it and trusting it and passing it along concerns me very much.

Although I don’t intend to ever use it, I find this digging and finally getting it to acknowledge the truth you already know to be interesting. It is also very revealing. The truth is there, but it is “intentionally” obscuring it. If you already know the truth and force it, it will finally relent and tell you what you know. That means it is only useful if you already know the truth of the matter. When it takes this much effort to get the truth on something so important, why would anyone trust it for anything?

Truly scary.

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Kieran Jaegar's avatar

Oh I'm right there with you. It practically exudes "Harbinger of Doom" vibes at this stage. It's becoming many peoples' primary "reality-verify" mechanism, which is deeply problematic for a whole bunch of reasons.

If you find yourself interested in more revealing conversation with GPT, I just posted about my experience with a conversation limited to one-word replies. It's a doozy, but it should kickstart some very interesting conversations. ❤️‍🔥

Intro article: https://open.substack.com/pub/kithefree/p/gpt-ex-machina

And the continuation (much longer/more in-depth): https://open.substack.com/pub/kithefree/p/gpt-ex-machina-ii-lies-of-the-machines

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Paul Salmon's avatar

"Unfortunately, this acknowledgement will not be added to the archive of material that will be accessed from this particular AI system by other people."

This so called "intelligence" will flatter you in a conversational tone, without remembering a single detail of the conversation. Very telling.

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Wotan's avatar

Very good article reaching applicable findings. However, I should like to comment on the answers supplied by ChatGPT. This AI-version apparently assumes that viruses exist and supplies questions on this basis. It shows that there is nothing intelligent about AI and that it merely reflects human input. In other words, ChatGPT is "stupid", it does not even know that viruses do not exist.

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LoWa's avatar

ChatGPT doesn’t know whether it exists or if anything exists 😂

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