Hexing and the nocebo effect can begin when, during a 'routine' exam a doctor recommends further test procedures (i.e. more lubricant for the medical machine), indicating a concern regarding cancer or any other dis-ease. Tom Cowan uses the term "bone pointing". It is absolutely real and I've witnessed many times the elevated anxiety in the unfortunate patient. I wish whole-heartedly that I could affect some spiritual and mental wisdom in those about whom I care deeply and personally. But they look to their allopathic medical priests for ultimate guidance. As a friend, who is facing a cancer diagnosis, said to me recently: "Well, I don't know about all this (the body, the mind, the spirit and the dangers of allopathy) so I'm gonna trust the doctor." Meaning it's just too difficult for (him) to consider, even if it is a matter of unnecessary suffering and an ultimate death sentence.
I understand the attitude and submission of those like my friend. I've been there in one way or another on many issues. But my urgings and pointings-out of reasons to not abandon one's self to those who exhibit and practice no real care have never made any difference that I can detect. Conversely, my efforts seem to make them extremely uncomfortable. When they consider allopathy to be the god of health then I come off as lunatic heretic, no matter how calm and reasoned I am with presenting facts. Over the years I seen my father, husband, siblings and many other relatives and friends languish and die in the gears of the machine. And one of those opted for active suicide. But when no questions are asked and being open to alternative information is"too hard", then I my only option is to continue loving, grieve as I must, and accept that this is their decision, informed or not.
I send much gratitude to you, Dawn, for your forthright addresses, fortitude and genuine caring.
Thank you for your response. Yes, the bone pointing is very real!
I'm sorry to hear about your friend and totally agree with you that you can share information, but it's up to them whether they accept it - or not. As you say, it's their decision. I can't imagine how hard that is for you. ❤️
Entering the modern stone age medical system is like playing Monopoly where as you move around the board of managed disease it gets more expensive and you never get to pass Go as you are dead and broke by then.
Yes there is a dark part of the politically directed medical system .
And the doctors in NZ (and probably in the UK) follow govt rules - and algorithms, collectively it is not questioned.
Their learned ideology has corporate roots.
Wrong thinking thats made careers out of vocations. Drugging in place of healing. For many its apathy in place of compassion.Compassion is not the foundation .
I started speaking about a related experience (what happened to me after my serious accident in 2006-) and it was definitely not "assisted dying" experience as after they took me off life support 24hrs following and when I didn't die they started assault and battery , kidnapped me, used forced weight bearing active rehab with skull fracture,multi fractured spine, ribs, unstable pelvis... it was(is) attempted murder they want(ed) to kill me and that was terrifying. And the nightmares not over as the Crown NZ govt and its corporation(ACC) continue to torture me and use a corrupted medical system to try to " assist me to die" /murder me. Some dr thats not mine recently referred me to have a barium enema MRI when I have an intestinal impaction due to an unhealed misaligned untreated lumbar sacral fracture and spinal cord injury( misdiagnosed as "simple constipation") , a horrible way to kill a person.
Its probably personal the " stick it up my bum" part as I have been "politically active" exposing all the 1% false narratives .
On a positive note
A real "palliative care system" would be based on compassion and understanding. And have understanding of both life that is eternal and death which is the opposite of birth. Both natural .
That all sounds horrendous!! It's incredible that you survived to tell the tale.
I totally agree that a 'real palliative care system' would recognise that death is natural and an inevitable part of life, not something to be feared or rejected. But it must also not be encouraged through legislation.
Yes indeed. Its medical murder legislation to push drs further into "eugenic practices" and to encourage suicidal thoughts in their patients .
In a culture that is afraid to live . And does not know that suffering is part of being a human being and it is the ground( fertilizer/" muck") for the growth of compassion.
People dont see that there is no need for promoting this govt "pro suicide"/medical ending life legislation . Drs under legislation already can give patients pain relief over the safe dose so dr facilitated euthanasia was already legislated for.
Hexing and the nocebo effect can begin when, during a 'routine' exam a doctor recommends further test procedures (i.e. more lubricant for the medical machine), indicating a concern regarding cancer or any other dis-ease. Tom Cowan uses the term "bone pointing". It is absolutely real and I've witnessed many times the elevated anxiety in the unfortunate patient. I wish whole-heartedly that I could affect some spiritual and mental wisdom in those about whom I care deeply and personally. But they look to their allopathic medical priests for ultimate guidance. As a friend, who is facing a cancer diagnosis, said to me recently: "Well, I don't know about all this (the body, the mind, the spirit and the dangers of allopathy) so I'm gonna trust the doctor." Meaning it's just too difficult for (him) to consider, even if it is a matter of unnecessary suffering and an ultimate death sentence.
I understand the attitude and submission of those like my friend. I've been there in one way or another on many issues. But my urgings and pointings-out of reasons to not abandon one's self to those who exhibit and practice no real care have never made any difference that I can detect. Conversely, my efforts seem to make them extremely uncomfortable. When they consider allopathy to be the god of health then I come off as lunatic heretic, no matter how calm and reasoned I am with presenting facts. Over the years I seen my father, husband, siblings and many other relatives and friends languish and die in the gears of the machine. And one of those opted for active suicide. But when no questions are asked and being open to alternative information is"too hard", then I my only option is to continue loving, grieve as I must, and accept that this is their decision, informed or not.
I send much gratitude to you, Dawn, for your forthright addresses, fortitude and genuine caring.
Thank you for your response. Yes, the bone pointing is very real!
I'm sorry to hear about your friend and totally agree with you that you can share information, but it's up to them whether they accept it - or not. As you say, it's their decision. I can't imagine how hard that is for you. ❤️
Very hard. BUT my own not accepting make ME ill. I know it truly. Thank you every day.
All true
Entering the modern stone age medical system is like playing Monopoly where as you move around the board of managed disease it gets more expensive and you never get to pass Go as you are dead and broke by then.
Yes there is a dark part of the politically directed medical system .
And the doctors in NZ (and probably in the UK) follow govt rules - and algorithms, collectively it is not questioned.
Their learned ideology has corporate roots.
Wrong thinking thats made careers out of vocations. Drugging in place of healing. For many its apathy in place of compassion.Compassion is not the foundation .
I started speaking about a related experience (what happened to me after my serious accident in 2006-) and it was definitely not "assisted dying" experience as after they took me off life support 24hrs following and when I didn't die they started assault and battery , kidnapped me, used forced weight bearing active rehab with skull fracture,multi fractured spine, ribs, unstable pelvis... it was(is) attempted murder they want(ed) to kill me and that was terrifying. And the nightmares not over as the Crown NZ govt and its corporation(ACC) continue to torture me and use a corrupted medical system to try to " assist me to die" /murder me. Some dr thats not mine recently referred me to have a barium enema MRI when I have an intestinal impaction due to an unhealed misaligned untreated lumbar sacral fracture and spinal cord injury( misdiagnosed as "simple constipation") , a horrible way to kill a person.
Its probably personal the " stick it up my bum" part as I have been "politically active" exposing all the 1% false narratives .
On a positive note
A real "palliative care system" would be based on compassion and understanding. And have understanding of both life that is eternal and death which is the opposite of birth. Both natural .
Peace and love.
That all sounds horrendous!! It's incredible that you survived to tell the tale.
I totally agree that a 'real palliative care system' would recognise that death is natural and an inevitable part of life, not something to be feared or rejected. But it must also not be encouraged through legislation.
Yes indeed. Its medical murder legislation to push drs further into "eugenic practices" and to encourage suicidal thoughts in their patients .
In a culture that is afraid to live . And does not know that suffering is part of being a human being and it is the ground( fertilizer/" muck") for the growth of compassion.
People dont see that there is no need for promoting this govt "pro suicide"/medical ending life legislation . Drs under legislation already can give patients pain relief over the safe dose so dr facilitated euthanasia was already legislated for.