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I bought and read good chunks of “what really makes you ill” last summer and am pretty persuaded by it on the whole. So thanks to you both. It’s clear that virology and germ theory are at best build on shaky grounds but more likely no foundation at all.
I’m curious is you’ve ever responded to Harriet Hall who wrote this “review” of the book:
I found her article difficult to read, more of a character attack than a convincing debunking. It’s a condensed form of the kind of attitude people give me if I ever poke at the alter of contagious microbes. I’m wondering if you’re able to make any headway persuading such people. How do you gauge who’s worth your time and who’s not?
If I remember correctly, that article came out pretty early in 2020. Someone made me aware of it and I briefly looked at it but soon realised it was a 'hit piece' so I didn't bother reading it properly or responding.
For me, the people who are worth bothering with are those who are at least curious and show some interest in listening to the 'other side' of the official narrative. People who are clearly stuck in their own belief system or simply want to argue or who just use ad hominem or other logical fallacies are those I feel are not worth bothering with.
“People who are clearly stuck in their own belief system or simply want to argue or who just use ad hominem or other logical fallacies”
I often think of Steve Kirsch on this one. Except he’s always claiming the same about us “virus isolation is important” people. I can see why Tom Cowan won’t get embroiled in his “debate me or you’re wrong” challenge. It’s not about discussing perspectives so much as beating/shaming “virus deniers”.
If you have any examples of when such a great impasse has been overcome please drop a link here. I’m beginning to think respectful debate in which each side acknowledges the actual arguments being made exists only in theory.
I'll give it some thought, but I can't think of any specific example of an impasse like this being overcome, mainly because I'm not sure if it has ever been this bad!
Maybe the vaccination debates in England in the late 1800s that finally led to the repeal of compulsory vaccination perhaps?
Thank you Jo. I didn't call out all of the 'half truthers', otherwise it would have been a long list - sadly.
I've read your healthy future article, it's good. I'll read your others when I can, only I need to write a monkeypox one now that they've decided to make it a 'public health emergency of international concern' - such nonsense!
I do hope more people will stand up to it this time.
I look forward to reading your monkey pox post. Yes, we seem to be going mad all over again. I knew Covid was mad, but now that I know much more about 'virology' I know that monkeypox is utterly insane.
There are a lot more of us who understand the tricks they're pulling this time.
Hi Dawn,
I bought and read good chunks of “what really makes you ill” last summer and am pretty persuaded by it on the whole. So thanks to you both. It’s clear that virology and germ theory are at best build on shaky grounds but more likely no foundation at all.
I’m curious is you’ve ever responded to Harriet Hall who wrote this “review” of the book:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/no-everything-you-thought-you-knew-about-disease-is-not-wrong/
I found her article difficult to read, more of a character attack than a convincing debunking. It’s a condensed form of the kind of attitude people give me if I ever poke at the alter of contagious microbes. I’m wondering if you’re able to make any headway persuading such people. How do you gauge who’s worth your time and who’s not?
Thank you for your support.
If I remember correctly, that article came out pretty early in 2020. Someone made me aware of it and I briefly looked at it but soon realised it was a 'hit piece' so I didn't bother reading it properly or responding.
For me, the people who are worth bothering with are those who are at least curious and show some interest in listening to the 'other side' of the official narrative. People who are clearly stuck in their own belief system or simply want to argue or who just use ad hominem or other logical fallacies are those I feel are not worth bothering with.
Yes:
“People who are clearly stuck in their own belief system or simply want to argue or who just use ad hominem or other logical fallacies”
I often think of Steve Kirsch on this one. Except he’s always claiming the same about us “virus isolation is important” people. I can see why Tom Cowan won’t get embroiled in his “debate me or you’re wrong” challenge. It’s not about discussing perspectives so much as beating/shaming “virus deniers”.
If you have any examples of when such a great impasse has been overcome please drop a link here. I’m beginning to think respectful debate in which each side acknowledges the actual arguments being made exists only in theory.
I'll give it some thought, but I can't think of any specific example of an impasse like this being overcome, mainly because I'm not sure if it has ever been this bad!
Maybe the vaccination debates in England in the late 1800s that finally led to the repeal of compulsory vaccination perhaps?
Thank you again Dawn so glad you call out the names! I didn't name them in mine but was thinking of Bossche and Malone https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/a-healthy-future-does-not-lie-with
I also tried tackling the nonsense of immune escape https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/to-be-well-studied-one-must-read and leaky experiments
Jo
Thank you Jo. I didn't call out all of the 'half truthers', otherwise it would have been a long list - sadly.
I've read your healthy future article, it's good. I'll read your others when I can, only I need to write a monkeypox one now that they've decided to make it a 'public health emergency of international concern' - such nonsense!
I do hope more people will stand up to it this time.
Thank you for the recommendation Dawn. I'm really chuffed.
Jo
Thank you for recommending me too. It's good to have lots of people sharing this information.
Thank you Dawn it means a lot.
I look forward to reading your monkey pox post. Yes, we seem to be going mad all over again. I knew Covid was mad, but now that I know much more about 'virology' I know that monkeypox is utterly insane.
There are a lot more of us who understand the tricks they're pulling this time.
Love,
Jo