An article was recently brought to my attention that is claimed by the author to not only ‘debunk’ the idea that ‘viruses’ are not the cause of disease, but to also ‘prove’ that SARS-CoV-2 was indeed the causative agent of a condition called ‘Covid-19’ that produced a ‘pandemic’ throughout the world beginning in early 2020.
God, bless you for taking the time to do this. I learned about the "virus" myth 20 years ago and now I have no patience with the people who defend it. I can no longer waste my time with people who think following the lines on the floor of a public building with a thin paper cloth over their mouth and nose will save them from "deadliest particle in the world" (from a bat no less.) Even if viruses were real and contagious, how could you possibly believe these strategies are anything other than a clown's delusion.
This was a pretty pathetic straw man approach by the debunker. Nearly every rejection he raised was facile and easily “debunked”. The level of sophistication of the argumentation was at such a low level it could not have been directed to anyone with a modicum of intellectual capacity. Pretty sad all up but even sadder some may have believed it.
The entire field of virology is based on an imaginary entity that was assumed to exist because “researchers” were stumped and didn’t know what caused a certain illness. In other words it’s a lazy and illogical way to explain any phenomenon of unknown origin. Culturing is fatally flawed because it assumes a virus is already present. Unfortunately. with the advent of Big Pharma and the unlimited upside to profits it’s likely virology will be with us for a long time to come.
"And then there is the psychological effect of the Big Lie which is axiomatic in gaslighting. The paradox here is that the bigger the lie, the harder it is for the mind to bridge the gulf between perceived reality and the lie that authority figures are painting as truth. I believe that the prospect of being deceived evinces a primitive emotional response on a par with staring death in the face. We are hard-wired to fear deception because we have evolved to interpret it as an existential threat. That’s why deception can elicit the same emotional response as the miscalculation of a serious physical threat. Lies told to us don’t always bear the same cost as a misjudged red light, but the primitive part of the brain can’t make this distinction and we rely on cerebral mediation for a more appropriate but delayed response. And in the long run, the lie is often just as dangerous as the physical threat. Many government whoppers – ‘safe and effective’ – do cost lives.
To avoid the death-like experience of being deceived, a mental defence is erected to deny that the lie is happening."
Instead of proving "sarscov2" and/or "covid19" he just says " I say 'viruses' exist because Louis P said so"
with absolutely no proof at all actually being provided.
Here the mind control trick is when "Covid" is the key misconception , instead he redirects says there are "covid misconceptions" much like the time they directed people to think about masks ignoring the fact there was no " virus".
Taking a contrary position to the MSM is not a valid argument, nor is it science ...... but on a practical level if you don't have time to put in the hours of research it's the kind of rule of thumb which will serve you well (and could save your life).
At the very least, a sustained MSM propaganda campaign/ sales pitch (such as we witnessed in 2020) should have been a giant red flag that compelled people you to do their own research.
In 2020 it was only 11 years since the last contrived 'pandemic' where the MSM, Big Pharma and politicians conspired to declare a pseudo pandemic in order to trigger a WHO Level 6 alert, which would in turn trigger millions of dollars worth of pre arranged vaccine contracts between governments and Big Pharma (paid for by the tax payer).
By 2010 it was already acknowledged that there was no 'pandemic' in 2009 and most European governments ended up trying to sell millions of unused vaccine doses BACK to Big Pharma. It was a huge scandal at the time.
Not trusting the MSM (and doing the opposite of what they say) is one of the top health tips anyone could possibly follow. And conversely, trusting the MSM and following the health advice has led to injury and death for millions of people.
'Mantras' might not qualify as science, but that does not mean they are not full of the wisdom and common sense of past experiences. Learning from history is the defining feature of a sensible person, and a sensible civilisation.
Yes. As the root meaning of science is knowledge, taking a contrary position to MSM is based on past experience as you indicate. MSM lies through its teeth frequently and cannot be trusted and that is knowledge or science.
The quantity of specious reasoning and patronisation employed here strongly suggests a limited hangout, ie "we're all comrades here against the nasty government, but if you just drink this Koolaid, you'll see where you've gone wrong. "
Do you have any information about him being programmed? I wonder who by and what they hoped to achieve with him, because he certainly isn't a 'big name' is he?
It's definitely puzzling that his main work is about mind control, but he failed to see the obvious mind control at work in 2020. So 🤷🏻♀️
Sadly not. Although he seems to 'sell' mind control on his website assuming that is who comes up in internet searches.
It's only I find that the anagrams of someone's names seems to determine part of their character. It is not the whole story but a significant part.
I think a lot of people have been paid to do this sort of article against the truth, flooding the net with rubbish to catch the unwary and unthinking.
But some people can be very narrow in their application of what they know and will not cross over into areas outside their knowledge where the same logic would apply.
He is already wrong in saying isolation is impossible because a virus needs a host to exist - because the very same mainstream sCiEnCe™️ says viruses not only jump species, but jump from host to host. So they MUST be able to exist and survive during all these jumping exercises.
Why can't the sCiEnCe™️ catch and isolate when the virus jumps? 🤔 where is the proof that this is even happening? Either viruses jump, or they are coming from WITHIN - as in, pleomorphism, as in normal detox processes that occur in the body - just as we've been saying for years now.
"One of the key issues underlying the discussion about the existence of any ‘pathogenic virus’ is the issue of ‘isolation’, which Neil Sanders describes as follows,
“Isolation is the process of culturing the virus on a host cell and then removing its genome to prove that you have a newly found entity.”
That is indeed the medical establishment’s definition of ‘isolation’, but this is a sleight of hand, because the methodology used by virologists does not ‘prove’ any such thing.
Neil is simply relying on mainstream ‘science’ to prove its own claims. An appropriate analogy would be accepting the claim that their food is healthy and nutritious from the CEO of McDonald’s."
WORD! Thanks for the brilliant debunking of this pretentious idiot Neil Sanders, Dawn!
My gut told me, as soon as this virus, no a virus that acts like a disease. No it’s just a disease.
Started, farce. Then I read your book and felt real good about what my gut sensed.
Again the data, you back your stance with is incredible in that book.
I have been told you probably have cancer by doctors 3 times, and three times a biopsy came back negative. All the pain killer pandemic’s they caused. Never had any real faith in their germ theory. Like chemo. They love their chemicals to gain customers.
In the USA they hand out statins and all that cholesterol, crap like everybody needs it like a right of passage.
Al I can say is no pills for me I-took back my body and soul years ago. In the nick of time.
Can I ask you something? My daughter was diagnosed with autism after her second MMR shot. From what I heard from your side of the pond from a autism group back in early 1990’s was that they had a bad batch of MMR vaccines the aluminum was too small and it got into the blood stream. This is still denied with no evidence by the USA, but plenty of coincidences. I know a few people here on substack same exact story. Right after the vaccine. Funny the child vaccine act of 1986, autism starts to go wild in the early 1990’s in both the USA and Europe. I know your stance on vaccines. But the MMR in particular, because I was hanging with an autism group online back then.
They were in England. Talking about the aluminum and they said it was taken off the shelves that particular batch. The USA just kept denying and made it mandatory in Mississippi which at the time skyrocketed to the number one autism rates.
Just find it a little interesting with mRNA shots no aluminum
Hi Tippy, of course you can ask and I'll do my best to answer.
First of, I'm not sure what 'bad batch' means. What was meant by the aluminium being 'too small'? I don't think the size of the aluminium is relevant to be honest. I do know that aluminium is related to neurological damage, as discussed in WRMYI.
I don't think all the cases labelled 'autism' are related solely to the aluminium content. There's the mercury/thimerosal content too, as you correctly mention.
Also, there may have been different ingredients in different vaccines or different batches, which may explain why there were high rates of autim in certain areas, but that still doesn't fully explain why it didn't happen to all children who were vaccinated.
The way I see it, if there was a direct link, then all children would have been affected in exactly the same way, but they weren't. So that suggests to me that there may well be other factors at play although the vaccines are a significant contributory factor, but maybe just the 'final straw'.
This is why I don't like to make positive claims. The burden of proof lies with those who make positive claims. So what we can do, and what I do my best to do, is highlight the flaws in those positive claims to show that there are serious problems with what the medical establishment says - because they clearly do not provide 'healthcare'.
Ok thanks I read something with stomach issues and autism too.
I have come across kids with autism with stomach issues too. Possible food issues, shit maybe baby formula
The bad batch was early 90’s talk, before there was much about autism anywhere. I concentrated on getting her healthy but I am still wondering what happen to her.? Chemical reaction in some?
So I figure you would have heard about it.(aluminum)bad batch)If it was a thing.The different ingredients and something else going on with the kids makes sense,
That is were the stomach issues come up.something with kids with early stomach issues and the MMR, my daughter went from being a normal 1.5 year old to grinding her teeth to walking in circles and not talking.
After her second MMR all I know. I actually went to the doctor who gave it too her, I was all ready arguing with my ex and the schools over their vaccine list for school entrance. I closed the door stood in front of the door and ask what is your opinion between me and this door what happen. He said the MMR has to be involved, but he too was not sold on it being just that. I said thanks for your honesty take it easy.
But this fact is true Mississippi made a mandatory law no MMR no school
There rates for autism went thru the roof this was the 90’s early 2000’s.
They also blamed the drinking water and my ex had me being dragging cases of bottled water around. But In my heart the MMR is involved
My daughter graduated college with a psychology degree.
And is pretty sharp doing math in her head and remembering things she wants too anyway ha ha. We talked about this whole autism scene a lot.
Put it this way she did not get the covid vaccine her decision,
So what does that tell you, tells me she feels that shot hurt her.
And she is not going to let them try again. Now Robert Kennedy said years ago about the vaccine schedule changing at the same time autism hit the scene.they started giving more vaccines
Yes, there was/is a connection between the MMR vaccine (and probably all vaccines) and gastrointestinal issues - the gut is often called the 'second brain'. That connection is what Dr Andrew Wakefield discovered in his research, even though he is not anti-vaccine and, like RFK jr., is only seeking 'safe vaccines', which is nonsense because it relies on the 'germ theory' being true, which it has never been proven to be.
The point is that the body is an inter-connected whole organism and so what happens in one part of the body cannot be considered separately from what happens in other parts.
Kennedy,Robert, blamed the schedule change too many vaccines and the mercury which he said started the same time autism hit the scene hard in 1989. All points to the vaccines and other factors like you said.he even said there are so many different ingredients who knows.
Step2-Blame a phantom based on mass, flawed, unverifiable testing of a population for RNA fragments presumed synonymous with infection by the phantom.
Silence dissent.
Step3-Expand disease definition to include illness previously recognized caused by other or unknown causes but occur in the presence of the phantom thus increasing “case count”.
Silence dissent
Step4-Prescribe toxic treatment like AZT/intubation to increase death count and blame those deaths on the phantom not the treatment.
Silence dissent
Step5-Insist lifetime less toxic, slower killing “cocktail therapy”/“vaccine boosters” are only protection/defense against often undetectable phantom.
Silence dissent
SARS-cov2/covid19 is hiv/AIDS2.0.
Both are a LIE.
If hepatitis-c is “cured” when no virus is detected why does an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load and t-cell count 600+ require lifetime treatment with a balanced “cocktail” of slow killing, toxic chemotherapeutic drugs that have known side effects that mirror the definition of AIDS?
If an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load went for an AIDS test and didn’t tell that they were previously hiv positive they would be told they were not infected and do not need treatment but would be encouraged to begin the recently released hiv vaccine that requires injection every two months. For the rest of your sexually active life.
As with any profit based business, ensuring return customers is vital for success.
If as is claimed, hiv remains latent, inactive, not reproducing and undetectable in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain they are not infected and the virus isn’t just inactive and undetectable in hidden reservoirs?
Why isn’t everyone on anti-hiv treatment? Just in case.
God, bless you for taking the time to do this. I learned about the "virus" myth 20 years ago and now I have no patience with the people who defend it. I can no longer waste my time with people who think following the lines on the floor of a public building with a thin paper cloth over their mouth and nose will save them from "deadliest particle in the world" (from a bat no less.) Even if viruses were real and contagious, how could you possibly believe these strategies are anything other than a clown's delusion.
Thank you so much, Dawn, for continuing to chip away at these fallacies and false assertions. You're a breath of fresh air, as always :)
Thank you for your continued efforts, Christine, you are most appreciated.
It was great to see that your article was recently published in the Canberra Daily. ❤️
Thanks to both you and Dawn for uncovering the truth.
This was a pretty pathetic straw man approach by the debunker. Nearly every rejection he raised was facile and easily “debunked”. The level of sophistication of the argumentation was at such a low level it could not have been directed to anyone with a modicum of intellectual capacity. Pretty sad all up but even sadder some may have believed it.
I agree. Sadly, I know someone who does believe him.
Like someone once said here in the States: "Think of your average American. Then realize that half of them are dumber than that." Sad but true.
Hey. Quit picking on us Americans 😉
Half the world is dumber than the average person lol
The entire field of virology is based on an imaginary entity that was assumed to exist because “researchers” were stumped and didn’t know what caused a certain illness. In other words it’s a lazy and illogical way to explain any phenomenon of unknown origin. Culturing is fatally flawed because it assumes a virus is already present. Unfortunately. with the advent of Big Pharma and the unlimited upside to profits it’s likely virology will be with us for a long time to come.
Not if I can help it.
"And then there is the psychological effect of the Big Lie which is axiomatic in gaslighting. The paradox here is that the bigger the lie, the harder it is for the mind to bridge the gulf between perceived reality and the lie that authority figures are painting as truth. I believe that the prospect of being deceived evinces a primitive emotional response on a par with staring death in the face. We are hard-wired to fear deception because we have evolved to interpret it as an existential threat. That’s why deception can elicit the same emotional response as the miscalculation of a serious physical threat. Lies told to us don’t always bear the same cost as a misjudged red light, but the primitive part of the brain can’t make this distinction and we rely on cerebral mediation for a more appropriate but delayed response. And in the long run, the lie is often just as dangerous as the physical threat. Many government whoppers – ‘safe and effective’ – do cost lives.
To avoid the death-like experience of being deceived, a mental defence is erected to deny that the lie is happening."
(From https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/alleged-cia-involvement-in-jfk-assassination-goes-mainstream-so-now-what/ )
In the south, you can say anything you want about someone as long as you add “Bless her/his heart”
So-
He’s a shiftless no-account, bless his heart.
Bless her heart, she just doesn’t have a brain.
She dresses like a cheap hooker, bless her heart.
And so on
Instead of proving "sarscov2" and/or "covid19" he just says " I say 'viruses' exist because Louis P said so"
with absolutely no proof at all actually being provided.
Here the mind control trick is when "Covid" is the key misconception , instead he redirects says there are "covid misconceptions" much like the time they directed people to think about masks ignoring the fact there was no " virus".
Taking a contrary position to the MSM is not a valid argument, nor is it science ...... but on a practical level if you don't have time to put in the hours of research it's the kind of rule of thumb which will serve you well (and could save your life).
At the very least, a sustained MSM propaganda campaign/ sales pitch (such as we witnessed in 2020) should have been a giant red flag that compelled people you to do their own research.
In 2020 it was only 11 years since the last contrived 'pandemic' where the MSM, Big Pharma and politicians conspired to declare a pseudo pandemic in order to trigger a WHO Level 6 alert, which would in turn trigger millions of dollars worth of pre arranged vaccine contracts between governments and Big Pharma (paid for by the tax payer).
By 2010 it was already acknowledged that there was no 'pandemic' in 2009 and most European governments ended up trying to sell millions of unused vaccine doses BACK to Big Pharma. It was a huge scandal at the time.
Not trusting the MSM (and doing the opposite of what they say) is one of the top health tips anyone could possibly follow. And conversely, trusting the MSM and following the health advice has led to injury and death for millions of people.
'Mantras' might not qualify as science, but that does not mean they are not full of the wisdom and common sense of past experiences. Learning from history is the defining feature of a sensible person, and a sensible civilisation.
Yes. As the root meaning of science is knowledge, taking a contrary position to MSM is based on past experience as you indicate. MSM lies through its teeth frequently and cannot be trusted and that is knowledge or science.
I wish more thoughtful people would read this information! Thank you!
The quantity of specious reasoning and patronisation employed here strongly suggests a limited hangout, ie "we're all comrades here against the nasty government, but if you just drink this Koolaid, you'll see where you've gone wrong. "
Thanks Dawn. Neil Sanders anagrams to:
denser snail
sine slander
in lad sneers
er insane lsd - (the drug or money)
lend arse sin
He was programmed to do what he did. :)
Do you have any information about him being programmed? I wonder who by and what they hoped to achieve with him, because he certainly isn't a 'big name' is he?
It's definitely puzzling that his main work is about mind control, but he failed to see the obvious mind control at work in 2020. So 🤷🏻♀️
Sadly not. Although he seems to 'sell' mind control on his website assuming that is who comes up in internet searches.
It's only I find that the anagrams of someone's names seems to determine part of their character. It is not the whole story but a significant part.
I think a lot of people have been paid to do this sort of article against the truth, flooding the net with rubbish to catch the unwary and unthinking.
But some people can be very narrow in their application of what they know and will not cross over into areas outside their knowledge where the same logic would apply.
He is already wrong in saying isolation is impossible because a virus needs a host to exist - because the very same mainstream sCiEnCe™️ says viruses not only jump species, but jump from host to host. So they MUST be able to exist and survive during all these jumping exercises.
Why can't the sCiEnCe™️ catch and isolate when the virus jumps? 🤔 where is the proof that this is even happening? Either viruses jump, or they are coming from WITHIN - as in, pleomorphism, as in normal detox processes that occur in the body - just as we've been saying for years now.
"One of the key issues underlying the discussion about the existence of any ‘pathogenic virus’ is the issue of ‘isolation’, which Neil Sanders describes as follows,
“Isolation is the process of culturing the virus on a host cell and then removing its genome to prove that you have a newly found entity.”
That is indeed the medical establishment’s definition of ‘isolation’, but this is a sleight of hand, because the methodology used by virologists does not ‘prove’ any such thing.
Neil is simply relying on mainstream ‘science’ to prove its own claims. An appropriate analogy would be accepting the claim that their food is healthy and nutritious from the CEO of McDonald’s."
WORD! Thanks for the brilliant debunking of this pretentious idiot Neil Sanders, Dawn!
My gut told me, as soon as this virus, no a virus that acts like a disease. No it’s just a disease.
Started, farce. Then I read your book and felt real good about what my gut sensed.
Again the data, you back your stance with is incredible in that book.
I have been told you probably have cancer by doctors 3 times, and three times a biopsy came back negative. All the pain killer pandemic’s they caused. Never had any real faith in their germ theory. Like chemo. They love their chemicals to gain customers.
In the USA they hand out statins and all that cholesterol, crap like everybody needs it like a right of passage.
Al I can say is no pills for me I-took back my body and soul years ago. In the nick of time.
Thank you. 🙏
Can I ask you something? My daughter was diagnosed with autism after her second MMR shot. From what I heard from your side of the pond from a autism group back in early 1990’s was that they had a bad batch of MMR vaccines the aluminum was too small and it got into the blood stream. This is still denied with no evidence by the USA, but plenty of coincidences. I know a few people here on substack same exact story. Right after the vaccine. Funny the child vaccine act of 1986, autism starts to go wild in the early 1990’s in both the USA and Europe. I know your stance on vaccines. But the MMR in particular, because I was hanging with an autism group online back then.
They were in England. Talking about the aluminum and they said it was taken off the shelves that particular batch. The USA just kept denying and made it mandatory in Mississippi which at the time skyrocketed to the number one autism rates.
Just find it a little interesting with mRNA shots no aluminum
But plenty of other goodies.
They use to say thimerosal too
Hi Tippy, of course you can ask and I'll do my best to answer.
First of, I'm not sure what 'bad batch' means. What was meant by the aluminium being 'too small'? I don't think the size of the aluminium is relevant to be honest. I do know that aluminium is related to neurological damage, as discussed in WRMYI.
I don't think all the cases labelled 'autism' are related solely to the aluminium content. There's the mercury/thimerosal content too, as you correctly mention.
Also, there may have been different ingredients in different vaccines or different batches, which may explain why there were high rates of autim in certain areas, but that still doesn't fully explain why it didn't happen to all children who were vaccinated.
The way I see it, if there was a direct link, then all children would have been affected in exactly the same way, but they weren't. So that suggests to me that there may well be other factors at play although the vaccines are a significant contributory factor, but maybe just the 'final straw'.
This is why I don't like to make positive claims. The burden of proof lies with those who make positive claims. So what we can do, and what I do my best to do, is highlight the flaws in those positive claims to show that there are serious problems with what the medical establishment says - because they clearly do not provide 'healthcare'.
I hope that helps.
Ok thanks I read something with stomach issues and autism too.
I have come across kids with autism with stomach issues too. Possible food issues, shit maybe baby formula
The bad batch was early 90’s talk, before there was much about autism anywhere. I concentrated on getting her healthy but I am still wondering what happen to her.? Chemical reaction in some?
So I figure you would have heard about it.(aluminum)bad batch)If it was a thing.The different ingredients and something else going on with the kids makes sense,
That is were the stomach issues come up.something with kids with early stomach issues and the MMR, my daughter went from being a normal 1.5 year old to grinding her teeth to walking in circles and not talking.
After her second MMR all I know. I actually went to the doctor who gave it too her, I was all ready arguing with my ex and the schools over their vaccine list for school entrance. I closed the door stood in front of the door and ask what is your opinion between me and this door what happen. He said the MMR has to be involved, but he too was not sold on it being just that. I said thanks for your honesty take it easy.
But this fact is true Mississippi made a mandatory law no MMR no school
There rates for autism went thru the roof this was the 90’s early 2000’s.
They also blamed the drinking water and my ex had me being dragging cases of bottled water around. But In my heart the MMR is involved
My daughter graduated college with a psychology degree.
And is pretty sharp doing math in her head and remembering things she wants too anyway ha ha. We talked about this whole autism scene a lot.
Put it this way she did not get the covid vaccine her decision,
So what does that tell you, tells me she feels that shot hurt her.
And she is not going to let them try again. Now Robert Kennedy said years ago about the vaccine schedule changing at the same time autism hit the scene.they started giving more vaccines
Yes, there was/is a connection between the MMR vaccine (and probably all vaccines) and gastrointestinal issues - the gut is often called the 'second brain'. That connection is what Dr Andrew Wakefield discovered in his research, even though he is not anti-vaccine and, like RFK jr., is only seeking 'safe vaccines', which is nonsense because it relies on the 'germ theory' being true, which it has never been proven to be.
The point is that the body is an inter-connected whole organism and so what happens in one part of the body cannot be considered separately from what happens in other parts.
Kennedy,Robert, blamed the schedule change too many vaccines and the mercury which he said started the same time autism hit the scene hard in 1989. All points to the vaccines and other factors like you said.he even said there are so many different ingredients who knows.
Step1-Identify cluster of deaths.
Step2-Blame a phantom based on mass, flawed, unverifiable testing of a population for RNA fragments presumed synonymous with infection by the phantom.
Silence dissent.
Step3-Expand disease definition to include illness previously recognized caused by other or unknown causes but occur in the presence of the phantom thus increasing “case count”.
Silence dissent
Step4-Prescribe toxic treatment like AZT/intubation to increase death count and blame those deaths on the phantom not the treatment.
Silence dissent
Step5-Insist lifetime less toxic, slower killing “cocktail therapy”/“vaccine boosters” are only protection/defense against often undetectable phantom.
Silence dissent
SARS-cov2/covid19 is hiv/AIDS2.0.
Both are a LIE.
If hepatitis-c is “cured” when no virus is detected why does an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load and t-cell count 600+ require lifetime treatment with a balanced “cocktail” of slow killing, toxic chemotherapeutic drugs that have known side effects that mirror the definition of AIDS?
If an AIDS patient with undetectable viral load went for an AIDS test and didn’t tell that they were previously hiv positive they would be told they were not infected and do not need treatment but would be encouraged to begin the recently released hiv vaccine that requires injection every two months. For the rest of your sexually active life.
As with any profit based business, ensuring return customers is vital for success.
If as is claimed, hiv remains latent, inactive, not reproducing and undetectable in hidden reservoirs how can anyone ever be certain they are not infected and the virus isn’t just inactive and undetectable in hidden reservoirs?
Why isn’t everyone on anti-hiv treatment? Just in case.
For the common good.
How are people not seeing through this bs?
The “alt media” is just orchestrated as the mainstream media.
Made to look like grassroots but it’s just more astroturf.