In part 1 of Disease Madness – What Is Happening?, I discussed the ‘diseases’ reported by the WHO on their Disease Outbreak News (DONS) web page since 1st June 2022. But these were not all new ‘outbreaks’;
I just watched the beginning of your interview with the Bailey's.
I think you should write the book about plant based and the lies that surround it! I think you pulled your punches in the book with the impact on physical, mental and spiritual health (as we know all connected) that plant based has.
For me it was the major eye opener 8 years ago, becoming (whole food plant based) vegan (I know it is a dirty word. Those who control the narrative have made it deliberatly so. Same as with the word feminist. I am proud to say I am a vegan for the animals and humans and a feminist for the animals and humans.) People may have longevity eating meat, but this is despite of not because of. And knowing the farm does not negate the sorrow a mother feels when her baby is taken away however much he apologises to her
Yes, it is a delicate subject when I know I'm talking to people who eat animal-based foods.
I understand what you mean about pulling our punches in the book, but we are still criticised for what we have written. It was a delicate balance.
The point for me is that I don't want to further divide the real 'truth' community on the issue of diet, because that would weaken us even further, which is exactly what 'they' want - so I'm not going to give them the satisfaction by helping them. I would prefer us to stick together on the key issues we are dealing with.
I think I get your point about weakening the 'truth community.' It's been made to me several times and by Del Bigtree a few days ago, in these instances in relation to glossing over the fact that there'e no evidence for viruses.
Del thinks we are 'winning' with the present arguments and stats because restrictions are being lifted, and politicians will think we're insane if we tell them there's no viruses and people aren't ready to hear it and will be confused.
I think that's very patronising and implies that people are stupid. We all fell for the lies.
If there is evidence that meat and dairy is harmful for example people should be told. If there is no evidence that viruses cause disease people should be told.
I do not believe that truthers will have any impact on the decisions politicians or the powers that be make, so it makes no difference whether we are united, divided, weakened or strong . Del is making a lot of money out of exactly how things are at the moment, with his graphs and showmanship. If we all knew there were no viruses he'd be out of a job.
The only way society will change is by individual personal awakening into taking control of their own health, listening to their souls, and finding compassion and forgiveness for all. Certainly helped by researchers freely presenting what is known about health for example and then every one can make up their own minds.
The old style of party politics requires members to tow the party line in order to get the party elected and to pass laws, even if they strongly disagree with the issues.
I have no desire to be part of a community which feels the need to do this in order to gain power.
I also have no desire to be part of a community where the new health and the new freedom only applies to certain members. Where it's OK that some can be 'owned' by others. Where babies are taken from mothers to steal milk and others killed at young ages to feed the elites not for their survival but because they like the taste.
This to me this is the key issue of a world I want to live in and I cannot stick with anyone who doesn't get it. If that plays into 'their' hands and we are all subjugated as slaves forever, then so be it!
I totally understand the point you are making, although I don't see the plant-based diet issue as being entirely comparable with the 'no virus' issue in the way it is protrayed to people.
I don't see my position as being the same as Del Bigtree's. And I do hope you don't think I'm being patronising like he is about what his audience can handle, that is certainly not my intention nor the way I even contemplate what I say in interviews.
I find it totally astounding that many plant-based doctors are promoting the vaccines because they have clearly never researched the exploitation of animals within virology and vaccine production, in addition to never having researched the lack of evidence for the existence of viruses in the first place.
Someone we knew mentioned our stance on viruses to Milton Mills, who basically made it clear he thought we were nuts.
There are some vegans who think 'man-made climate change' is real and others who think there are 75 different genders or something similarly stupid. I certainly don't want to live in a community with such people!
So right now, there are very few of us who are plant-based, 'virus deniers', 'climate change deniers' who know that there are only 2 genders. I am in a Telegram group of such like-minded people and it is a very very small group.
Again. I totally understand your position and I do hope you understand mine, which is a lot closer to yours than you may think. However, I believe in free will, which means I do not have the right to tell people what to do, but I can provide information for people to make their own decisions and I try my best to do that.
Sep 6, 2022·edited Sep 6, 2022Liked by Dawn Lester
Hiya Dawn,
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. No I don't think you are patronising nor at all like Del Bigtree!
I too have been so disappointed with the leading lights in the plant based world and their active promotion of the vaccines, not only cos if they were doing evidence based medicine they wouldn't, be also, as you say, all pharma products are made with animal abuse.
And in the unvaccinated world I'm told the WEF are using my compassion to manipulate me and that I need to animal fat or I'll die.
I feel like i have no home anywhere!
I really do appreciate your position. I'm with you, not only do we not have the right to tell people what to do, it's a complete waste of time. The last 2 years have really shown me that none of us respond in a good way to being told what's good for us. Now I don't even try to convince people about plant based. Consequently I've become much more open, relaxed and light hearted about it with people.
You are the one who has devoted her life to researching a best selling book, and have the courage and skill to be interviewed and to humbly and eloquently present the information you have found. I am in no position to tell you how to do that!
I was just expressing my frustration at this weird position we are in right now.
Thanks again Dawn, I 've sent you a telegram message, if I could join your group if you thought that would be appropriate?
Hey Dawn, I'm so proud to literally be on the same page as you (well the one opposite!) in the light! https://thelightpaper.co.uk
Some pretty bodgy science on the front page about 'viral DNA' getting into cells. Well, at least they also print our stuff.
Jo
Excellent. Well done.
I've only just seen the latest edition so I don't know what else is included.
As you say, at least they publish our work and the more the merrier.
Are you contributing every month? I hope so.
Dawn
Hiya, thank you. We're on the 'Health' pages!
No this is the only one so far.
I'm thinking of writing one about how we don't need the World Council For Health who have an ad for a web developer on the next page!
Jo
Yes, of course. I hadn't paid attention to the various categories!!
That would be a good topic, I think Darren is pretty open about such ideas!
Hi Dawn,
I just watched the beginning of your interview with the Bailey's.
I think you should write the book about plant based and the lies that surround it! I think you pulled your punches in the book with the impact on physical, mental and spiritual health (as we know all connected) that plant based has.
For me it was the major eye opener 8 years ago, becoming (whole food plant based) vegan (I know it is a dirty word. Those who control the narrative have made it deliberatly so. Same as with the word feminist. I am proud to say I am a vegan for the animals and humans and a feminist for the animals and humans.) People may have longevity eating meat, but this is despite of not because of. And knowing the farm does not negate the sorrow a mother feels when her baby is taken away however much he apologises to her
My health was transformed but I also saw the idiocy of the medical pharmaceutical model and the way the media misrepresents studies on diet https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/whats-the-best-diet
Anyway brilliant interview
So glad.
Jo
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the interview.
Yes, it is a delicate subject when I know I'm talking to people who eat animal-based foods.
I understand what you mean about pulling our punches in the book, but we are still criticised for what we have written. It was a delicate balance.
The point for me is that I don't want to further divide the real 'truth' community on the issue of diet, because that would weaken us even further, which is exactly what 'they' want - so I'm not going to give them the satisfaction by helping them. I would prefer us to stick together on the key issues we are dealing with.
Dawn
Hi Dawn,
I think I get your point about weakening the 'truth community.' It's been made to me several times and by Del Bigtree a few days ago, in these instances in relation to glossing over the fact that there'e no evidence for viruses.
Del thinks we are 'winning' with the present arguments and stats because restrictions are being lifted, and politicians will think we're insane if we tell them there's no viruses and people aren't ready to hear it and will be confused.
I think that's very patronising and implies that people are stupid. We all fell for the lies.
If there is evidence that meat and dairy is harmful for example people should be told. If there is no evidence that viruses cause disease people should be told.
I do not believe that truthers will have any impact on the decisions politicians or the powers that be make, so it makes no difference whether we are united, divided, weakened or strong . Del is making a lot of money out of exactly how things are at the moment, with his graphs and showmanship. If we all knew there were no viruses he'd be out of a job.
The only way society will change is by individual personal awakening into taking control of their own health, listening to their souls, and finding compassion and forgiveness for all. Certainly helped by researchers freely presenting what is known about health for example and then every one can make up their own minds.
The old style of party politics requires members to tow the party line in order to get the party elected and to pass laws, even if they strongly disagree with the issues.
I have no desire to be part of a community which feels the need to do this in order to gain power.
I also have no desire to be part of a community where the new health and the new freedom only applies to certain members. Where it's OK that some can be 'owned' by others. Where babies are taken from mothers to steal milk and others killed at young ages to feed the elites not for their survival but because they like the taste.
This to me this is the key issue of a world I want to live in and I cannot stick with anyone who doesn't get it. If that plays into 'their' hands and we are all subjugated as slaves forever, then so be it!
Jo
Hi Jo,
I totally understand the point you are making, although I don't see the plant-based diet issue as being entirely comparable with the 'no virus' issue in the way it is protrayed to people.
I don't see my position as being the same as Del Bigtree's. And I do hope you don't think I'm being patronising like he is about what his audience can handle, that is certainly not my intention nor the way I even contemplate what I say in interviews.
I find it totally astounding that many plant-based doctors are promoting the vaccines because they have clearly never researched the exploitation of animals within virology and vaccine production, in addition to never having researched the lack of evidence for the existence of viruses in the first place.
Someone we knew mentioned our stance on viruses to Milton Mills, who basically made it clear he thought we were nuts.
There are some vegans who think 'man-made climate change' is real and others who think there are 75 different genders or something similarly stupid. I certainly don't want to live in a community with such people!
So right now, there are very few of us who are plant-based, 'virus deniers', 'climate change deniers' who know that there are only 2 genders. I am in a Telegram group of such like-minded people and it is a very very small group.
Again. I totally understand your position and I do hope you understand mine, which is a lot closer to yours than you may think. However, I believe in free will, which means I do not have the right to tell people what to do, but I can provide information for people to make their own decisions and I try my best to do that.
Dawn
Hiya Dawn,
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. No I don't think you are patronising nor at all like Del Bigtree!
I too have been so disappointed with the leading lights in the plant based world and their active promotion of the vaccines, not only cos if they were doing evidence based medicine they wouldn't, be also, as you say, all pharma products are made with animal abuse.
And in the unvaccinated world I'm told the WEF are using my compassion to manipulate me and that I need to animal fat or I'll die.
I feel like i have no home anywhere!
I really do appreciate your position. I'm with you, not only do we not have the right to tell people what to do, it's a complete waste of time. The last 2 years have really shown me that none of us respond in a good way to being told what's good for us. Now I don't even try to convince people about plant based. Consequently I've become much more open, relaxed and light hearted about it with people.
You are the one who has devoted her life to researching a best selling book, and have the courage and skill to be interviewed and to humbly and eloquently present the information you have found. I am in no position to tell you how to do that!
I was just expressing my frustration at this weird position we are in right now.
Thanks again Dawn, I 've sent you a telegram message, if I could join your group if you thought that would be appropriate?
Jo
Thank you Jo. I really appreciate your response and I understand how you feel. You aren't on your own though. :)
Dawn
Thanks Dawn ♥️
That article looks interesting. Thanks.