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Mar 17·edited Mar 17Liked by Dawn Lester

Hi Dawn. Very interesting products. Any chance the company can do a bundle of one shield and one square at a reduced price? (Yes, I do know about the coupon code to also include.) Thanks.

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I don't know what other bundles they can offer. Maybe you can contact Adrian through his website and ask him directly.

https://theprinciples.co.uk/

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Thank you, I've been trying to find a trusted source for this type of EMF mitigation and I really appreciate what you shared about Adrian's eyesight improving.

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You're welcome.

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https://www.youtube.com/live/L3JxOKedSy0?feature=shared&t=2164 starts at time. At the beginning of this discussion Lena Pu states that the tests have been done, and "not having the tests done" is total bs. If you care to dig deeper.

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I am just looking into buying, so this is great, thanks. Is it the same type as this one do you know?

https://www.blushield-us.com/collections/all/products/c1-ultimate-cube-5g

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answering my own q... looks like its this one if anyone wants to chime in:

https://biophotonic.uk/product/photonicwave/

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Well, I’ve yet to find a study that conclusively demonstrates the detrimental effects of EMF or 5G.

Said study would include controls and a method section.

Do you have one study in particular that you could say convinced you of the damage EMF or 5G can do?

(Please note I’m not asking for a raft of studies, just one that you believe is proves this).

I have heard the same sort of claim for the last 4 + years and I’m genuinely interested in find a conclusive study.

Otherwise we’re parroting a theory without investigating its validity and that’s why I liken it to Germ Theory and its claim that if your “immune system” or health is good you can combat viruses.

I have no issue with the statement that we are electrical beings.

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Mar 18Liked by Dawn Lester

Have you followed up on the sources in the Navy Medical Research Institutes' research report documents from 71 & '72? https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD0750271.pdf .

Read "The Invisible Rainbow" (although he still believes in germ theory which should not be held against him re: this subject). I call it a page turner not just because it's an easy read but because I had to keep turning the pages back to reread what I couldn't believe I just read!

The 'unofficial' ('official' signifies likely bs tbh) studies I've done personally are; that when I hold a cell phone in my hand, my fingers, hand and arm begin to burn and ache. The pain and effects work their way up the arm and when it got to the chest I had to do something cause this was too precise to be a coincidence or whatever that science is called where it is all circumstantial I got a block. When I switch hands, that side will then feel the effects. So, I made a case for the phone out of emr blocking material so that the radiation is blocked from my grip, and that issue went away. I always remember Cowan's words of the blood pump comes from our capillaries so it made perfect sense that touching the frequencies so closely would have an effect as such. I won't touch a phone without that blocking material around it now cause the pain man. Just no. Necessity is the mother of invention right? We (ehs people) ARE the study.

I'll give you one more of my personal experiences. I partook of some easy money delivery servicing. When riding in that car, with a multitude of apps running on 2 phones; door dash, uber, grub hub (with the red, O.L. constant almost on the emf meter), I get repetitive heart palpitations way too often. 2, 3 , 5, 7 - too many times all in just a few hours. I don't get the heart palpitations (very often) unless I'm out irradiating myself. Scared to go out again because of this, and almost every time I go with again,,,wham it ain't long at all til it happens. It's almost a given. Many times I've 'tested the theory', so I'll stick to breaking my body down laying floors. When ya know ya know bro.

There are lots of 'EHS' people (one of which is the author of The Invisible Rainbow). Klinghardt tells a story of a patient he had which they were trying to remove aluminum from the brain, and thought about using a cell phone to open up the 'blood brain barrier' (if there really is such a thing). So after careful consideration, and of course the client's directive, they put a cell phone by his head during the procedure ,,,and the s.o.b had a stroke! sooo... no more of that he said.

I forget the year and can't find it on the net anymore but before the emf's were first discovered in the early 1820's - so I think this was back in late 1700's or it might have been early 1800's but anyway - they discovered that they could shoot these rays into a subject and cause death. They killed a rabbit in 10 minutes with a gun they had made. All intel went dark and it was swallowed up ( at least for the time being) by Japan best I can remember.

Good luck in your search brother. 5G Summit is another place with a ton of sources.

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The NMRI report you've supplied has a bunch of footnotes on studies (which are very hard to to make out due to the photocopied nature of the PDF) but I see no actual study that I could look at the methods and controls used.

I am looking for the source material rather than a catalogue.

Are you able to further enlighten me?

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No Cris, I cannot give you an actual link to an actual study with listed methods and controls "that prove it", save obviously very compelling epidemiological ones. Seems impossible that there are none. None that we are privy to anyway. I'm sure if you could get a look at DARPA's files you'd know more than you'd care to. Barry Trower has been part of them however I am not aware if he published any for the public eye.

Cited proof using the scientific method has always been the hidden genie for credence to be given to this topic, as far as I know. I can only you show you where the rabbit holes are. Frustrating I know and agree. There were thousands of documents introduced into Congress - none of which were accepted or even read (thank the FCC) . There are thousands of studies 'out there'; many outlined in books on this topic albeit most epidemiological. Studies do show that emf's cause the mitochondrial chain to back up and the cell cannot function properly. I don't have the study linked but the best one off the top of my head that you can lok for is from a zoologist Neelima Kumar at Panjab University in India who proved that cellular respiration can be brought to a standstill in honey bees by exposing them to a cell phone for 10 minutes. The bees could not metabolize sugars, proteins or fats.

Contact the Naval Medical Research Academy and ask them to clarify and if they have a copy better suited to reading. https://www.med.navy.mil/Naval-Medical-Research-Command/Contact-Us/

The ptsnb have labeled it as a 'possible carcinogen' linked below. For them to only say possible, considering that you know what you know about alleged viruses, allows that you can do good math, so I am not sure of exactly what paperwork would suffice you. Read the Invisible rainbow. You'll find enough studies in there alone that prove that emf's cause bodily harm.

https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/pr208_E.pdf .

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If you cannot sight just one study that you believe proves the harmful effects of EMF or 5G then what on earth has convinced you this is the case?

I am applying the same level of scrutiny that has been used for proof of contagion or a pathogenic virus.

Both of which you know full well lack even one credible study.

Dr Tom Cowan and the “no virus” team have been asking for just one paper that demonstrates this.

Otherwise it’s mere opinion and conjecture.

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This study from Pubmed meet the criteria I think.

Conclusion: Apoptosis and immune activity in the cochlea depend on the electric field and power value. Even at low doses, the electromagnetic field in Wi-Fi frequency damages the inner ear and causes apoptosis.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38454287/

At least err on the side of caution if you are truly a truth seeker. Kids don't deserve the harm if it is there.

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Thank you and you see no conflicts with the methods used to obtain their results?

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Let me double dip. I forgot the original reason I looked into all this. I used to wear a cell phone on my hip for 10 years. Right around that area I started feeling pains / burns / something that felt pretty damn wrong right around that spot. So deduction or happenstance I don't remember wisened me up to the possible cause of it being a cell phone, so I quit wearing it on my hip, and that wasn't easy thing to do. I spent a lot of time on that phone. Before too long though I didn't have the pain / discomfort there. Coincidence? Then the hands fingers and arms, HEART lol,,, let me know this stuff is all too real.

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Thank you for this. I am assuming you've already taken the time to read this....is that correct?

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Well, since the Gov shut down all research after the results they found on 3G, don't count on finding it. The regulatory agencies have been captured by the industry.

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Well, that's not what Germ Theory claims. In fact, it claims the opposite. It states that REGARDLESS of whether your immune system is strong, you can and likely will be harmed by pathogens. Germ Theory ignores the health of the individual, claiming that pathogens (such as viruses, which, incidentally, have never been shown to exist) are a threat to everyone (!), young or old, healthy or not. You must be thinking of Terrain Theory.

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The claIm by Germ Theory is that if your immune system is robust enough you'll avoid falling ill to a 'virus' or bacteria.

I'm well aware of the fact that Virology is a pseudoscience and hasn't proven the existence of viruses.

However, my point is that to date I have not seen a single study that would reliably prove the health threat of EMF or 5G on the human body.

This parallels with the unsubstantiated threat of a viral pathogen insofar as I've yet to see any proof.

If you have one that you've personally read that you believe is reliable scientific proof of the threat then please I implore you to send me the link or reference?

If everyone is so convinced that this is simple to prove then it should only take just one specific paper/study with controls and a method section.

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"The claIm by Germ Theory is that if your immune system is robust enough you'll avoid falling ill to a 'virus' or bacteria.." No. Again, you've got your facts wrong. You're confusing Germ Theory with Terrain Theory. It's Terrain Theory that (correctly, I might add) claims that if your immune system is sufficiently robust (i.e., has low or zero levels of toxicity), you'll avoid falling ill.

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>> Instert that gif of the woman laughing up here coffee here..

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You're side stepping the point of my query in the first place .

Do you have anything to contribute regarding a study you'd stand behind as proof of the health effects of EMF or 5G?

Thank you

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You didn't make a query. I responded to your response to Dawn in which you gave an incorrect definition of Germ Theory. I have no comment on EMF or 5G. There, does that answer that? Besides, it's YOU who are sidestepping, as you don’t know the definition of “germ theory” and keep coming back with false facts. So let's start again and end this nonsense once and for all. You wrote to Dawn, and I quote, "Germ Theory and its claim that if your “immune system” or health is good you can combat viruses." I responded with NOTHING about EMFs because I wanted to address your above wrong statement, which I corrected, but to which you AGAIN bizarrely responded with the same misinformation. Regarding studies about EMFs or 5G, that's NOT what I was addressing in my original comment to you. Maybe later, when you get the basic facts right about germ vs. terrain theory, I can address EMFs and 5G (although that question was not posed to me in the first place). Until then...

Please do a search (preferably via DuckDuckGo or Presearch) on both “germ theory” and “terrain theory” or read almost any article by Mike Stone, Drs. Mark and Sam Bailey (or watch any of Sam Bailey’s great videos), Dr. Tom Cowan, and/or Dr. Andrew Kaufman to glean from them the correct definitions of and important distinctions between germ and terrain theory. Then, come back and you can make your argument. Until then, I can’t waste my time with this silliness. Just do a search – it’s as simple as can be. Thanks and I sincerely wish you the best of luck!

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Best of luck to you too!!

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This is sounding a lot like the argument used for the non existent “immune system”. Just saying.

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In what way? The 'immune system' is claimed to fight germs, but germs don't attack the body, so the whole idea is nonsense.

The body definitely functions electromagnetically.

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This was meant as a reply.

Well, I’ve yet to find a study that conclusively demonstrates the detrimental effects of EMF or 5G.

Said study would include controls and a method section.

Do you have one study in particular that you could say convinced you of the damage EMF or 5G can do?

(Please note I’m not asking for a raft of studies, just one that you believe is proves this).

I have heard the same sort of claim for the last 4 + years and I’m genuinely interested in find a conclusive study.

Otherwise we’re parroting a theory without investigating its validity and that’s why I liken it to Germ Theory and its claim that if your “immune system” or health is good you can combat viruses.

I have no issue with the statement that we are electrical beings.

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One single study would not have been sufficient for me to be convined that EMF causes harm. In my research, I found multiple sources providing multiple studies. Here's just one example that contains hundreds of peer-reviewed studies (and yes, I know the peer-review process is seriously flawed)

https://bioinitiative.org/

My intention is not to spread fear-mongering - as you can see from all my other Substack articles - but about being realistic with what we are facing and what we can do to mitigate the effects.

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I appreciate you providing this link, thank you, but can you vouch for just one that you believe is reliable?

By your comment I am assuming you've done extensive research into this and that is why I am asking for just one that you can recommend.

I will of course go through the rest of the studies listed.

Or do you believe that all studies on from this source are reliable to prove the health threat of EMF or 5G?

Thank you in advance

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It's the weight of evidence from a large number of studies that has convinced me that EMFs are not as 'harmless' as we're made to believe.

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So please show me just one of the most compelling that you’ve read.

I want to be able start with one you’ve recommended.

Thank you

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Interesting.

I tend to be a person who likes to see the evidence.

Looking forward to investigating these products.

Thank you and be blessed today.

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